tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post2070645737402573432..comments2024-02-07T18:15:56.601+11:00Comments on Footpath Zeitgeist: What fat chicks used to wearMelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08987383983530564029noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-76057120601911625752010-03-12T05:20:25.007+11:002010-03-12T05:20:25.007+11:00All of that was both spectacular and interesting, ...All of that was both spectacular and interesting, if anything in terms of how connected and in fact globalized this little elite was. But it was also interesting in terms of size !<br /> <a href="http://howtogrowtaller101.com/" rel="nofollow">become taller</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16186915475574045170noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-14752125670295801662010-02-16T14:40:51.102+11:002010-02-16T14:40:51.102+11:00Regarding the lack of plus-size options in vintage...Regarding the lack of plus-size options in vintage stores: I think it has much more to do with the customers that the shops are looking to attract than the availability of larger sizes. I mainly wear vintage clothing but find most of it at charity shops rather than "vintage" stores. These stores just aren't looking to cater to larger sized people. Definitely a shame although I'm not complaining too much. I'd rather pay $4 for my dress instead of $40 (or $400) depending on where you're shopping.Rebecca Hernandezhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05034717556524001554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-16224254356948489232010-02-16T04:10:52.725+11:002010-02-16T04:10:52.725+11:00Somewhat randomly - several years ago (between 200...Somewhat randomly - several years ago (between 2003-2007) a museum in Pennsylvania (I want to say in Philly, but it is remotely possible that it was in Pittsburgh) had an exhibit on the history of the corset. And it included a plus sized corset, which was very interesting. It had the same proportions as the smaller ones, just the waist diameter was much more 'normal'. Unfortunately, I can't remember any more details about the museum, except to say it was probably an art museum.<br /><br />Regarding corsetry specifically, given that children (don't know if there is a relationship to class) were often put in corsets as well, there is reason to believe that bodies were not allowed to grow outward as they do without them, so most people probably were as a result skinnier.piggie1230https://www.blogger.com/profile/15084635853178647613noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-66568785056403299452010-02-08T02:36:48.058+11:002010-02-08T02:36:48.058+11:00Re: your investigation of sizing problems. Much of...Re: your investigation of sizing problems. Much of this has already been done by a pattern maker (me) in the garment industry. Lacking a cabal or access to a repository of institutional knowledge (rapidly depleting), we know less than you'd imagine. I've answered many of your questions thus far and brought up topics you've yet to anticipate in your inquiry. The first entry to my "vanity sizing" (no such thing) series includes links at close to most of the other entries. <br />http://www.fashion-incubator.com/archive/the_myth_of_vanity_sizing/Kathleen Fasanellahttp://www.fashion-incubator.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-61959970743570161122010-02-06T13:05:27.740+11:002010-02-06T13:05:27.740+11:00Yeah, "Husky" was the boy's "Ch...Yeah, "Husky" was the boy's "Chubette"- though I think they still use "husky."Maryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05104317482392754884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-11842103099019489202010-02-05T18:04:14.619+11:002010-02-05T18:04:14.619+11:00Whoa – "Chubette"?!? They obviously were...Whoa – "Chubette"?!? They obviously weren't as sensitive back in the '50s. Whereas recently Big City Chic changed its brand name to City Chic so it wouldn't have a fat reference in it any more!Melhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08987383983530564029noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-87120464696484687902010-02-05T17:59:32.687+11:002010-02-05T17:59:32.687+11:00I'm also interested in this- I think the histo...I'm also interested in this- I think the history of "sizes" (so artificial in of themselves) is really interesting. There is definitely larger sized vintage around, but it is often not very visible- and there is definitely overall less of it than small sizes. I have found lots of larger size vintage over the years, and while there is a certain amount that is simply frumpier/more boxy/more old ladyish, vintage dies exist in a variety of sizes.<br /><br />this truly amazing dress that i sold was about a modern size 18:<br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/candydarling/oldebay/DSCN0107.jpg<br /><br />http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v14/candydarling/oldebay/DSCN0108.jpg<br /><br />this post I did about chubby teen sizes is also kind of related:<br />http://thefashionmuseum.blogspot.com/2009/12/whatta-novelty-print.html<br /><br />excuse all the fugly links! thanks for tackling such an interesting subject! -MaryMaryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05104317482392754884noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-77699937640745611742010-02-03T14:16:51.448+11:002010-02-03T14:16:51.448+11:00Excited to read your investigative report!Excited to read your investigative report!slanderoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06988786887256098344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-6875284630422969822010-01-25T22:42:42.868+11:002010-01-25T22:42:42.868+11:00This sounds very exciting ! Lot’s of different asp...This sounds very exciting ! Lot’s of different aspects of the same question in those bullet points of yours, and it all sounds fascinating. <br /><br />Last summer, I went to see an exhibition on royal court dress in Europe in the 17th, 18th and 19th centuries (see <a href="http://www.boutiquesdemusees.fr/en/shop/products/details/1318-exhibition-catalogue-fastes-de-cour-et-ceremonies-royales.html" rel="nofollow">catalogue description</a> for details). There were historical garments from the monarchies of England, Russia, Italy, Austria, Sweden, etc. There were also paintings of the kings and queens etc who used to own these clothes, so you could see both their outfit and what they looked like. So, the exhibition focussed on royal fashion and its making, so stuff like national trends and craftsmanship were addressed. Because the exhibition was held at Versailles, they also focussed on how the French court influenced the fashion of other European monarchies, and how French fashion artisans and craftsmen were commissioned to create garments for other European royals and elite court members. All of that was both spectacular and interesting, if anything in terms of how connected and in fact globalized this little elite was. But it was also interesting in terms of size !<br /><br />On the one hand you had the impossibly tiny size of the clothes and on the other you had the very imposing sizes of the people in the paintings. The tiny size of the garments applied to both females and males, and across the social spectrum including both kings and servants (there were costumes for lackeys, guards etc). Yet everyone was big on their portrait ! In a few cases, the same outfit was shown both in the exhibition and in the person’s portrait and the discrepancy between the two was pretty hilarious. So these were very tiny people, who were nonetheless depicted as big and muscular and powerful on official portraits. I’m guessing these official paintings served to convey the strength of the state rather than that of the individual, so portraits were probably political statements rather than our current more individualistic understanding of portraiture. But that doesn’t explain everything. The exhibition focussed on fashion and craftsmanship, and not on size and representation of size, so there was no info on that aspect. And it’s left me feeling very curious indeed !<br /><br />Definitely looking forward to reading what you’ll unearth on this.Sarahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03337006564596484347noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-63578531587744598622010-01-20T14:47:20.060+11:002010-01-20T14:47:20.060+11:00Yes please! This would be a fascinating read!
~ an...Yes please! This would be a fascinating read!<br />~ another fat chick who can't shop vintagesizeoftheoceanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17126964926482601298noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10736511.post-41469788423504529272010-01-20T05:35:07.257+11:002010-01-20T05:35:07.257+11:00I look forward to reading what you discover as to ...I look forward to reading what you discover as to "what fat chicks used to wear." I'm a fat chick myself and love vintage clothing...but know exactly of what you speak re never even bothering to try anything on, cuz you *know* it will not fit. I always wondered - where did all the fat ladies' dresses go?? It doesn't really make sense. I hope you're able to make some sense of it.Fashion Schlubhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08955119552327945874noreply@blogger.com